May 24, 2000
Shawn: I was thinking today about what drives me and us (people in general) to share their questions
and understandings. Why not figure this stuff out and keep it to ourselves.
Tom:Because A.) Man is basically Good; B.) Some of it won't work if a lot
of people don't believe it; C.)You may as well discover your feet and try keeping that from
everybody. That reminds me: I've noticed that Bill Gates' new book, HOW TO WALK, doesn't seem
to be selling.
Shawn: Books like you were referring to seem to attract people who want to bring the
prizes of such endeavors down to their level of daily hypnosis instead of using them to break
the looking glass, so to speak.
Tom:Many such feel unworthy of the prize -- whatever it may be -- and so
pretend to put it "up" and away from themselves. Those such can also behave like pretty jealous
people. A natural mechanism to keep the worthy from feeling sorry for them, I suppose.
Tom:I lowered a tape of Jane's Seth-voice [etc] Pretty impressive,
Shawn: Sounds like that would be cool to put on the web.
Tom:Nah. We already have "Seth Network Galactical Conference of Tubby
Know It Alls" or whatever that is, to distort things. Besides, how would you like it if somebody
screwed around with your voice and advertised for people to come hear that?
Tom:[etc] Imagine even imagining playing with your identity so that you
are simultaneously aware of 6 different worlds at once in total detail. Hard to even imagine
imagining, isn't it?
Shawn: Yes, but I think that's part of what the Seth exercises from Unknown were about. He said we can
hold many more things in our minds than we currently do. (Practice Element 10)
Tom:Laddie. Can you imagine me rubbing my forehead, slowly, wearily,
trying to forestall the approach of a mere wee foreboding of quiet chagrin? Then I rub a
little harder. And just a lit-tle har-derrrrrrrgh. Ah. Better. Now then: have you... tried
Practice Element 10? Yet?
Tom:Would you like to know when I first tried it? I first tried it when
I was working as a copywriter in an advertising dept.... at my job. Yes! While doing my job.
Tom:I understand you too have a job, lad. Have you tried that one? Say,
at your job? You can try it there, or anywhere... not driving your car, though, he's right. You
need time where you don't require life-or death reaction time. But you need to be doing something.
Tom:Perhaps, though, you would like to know what happened to ME the first
time I tried that exercise. WELL I GREW A PAIR OF ANTENNAE AND MY EYES BUGGED OUT AND NOW I LOOK
LIKE A GRASSHOPPER! IT'S REALLY EMBARRASSING! I'M SORRY I EVER TRIED IT. In fact, one result was
that it felt like my IQ had just shot up 20 points. It's a GREAT exercise. So do it and tell me
what happens. Then we may send you your pod.
Shawn: I'm going to use your first reponse to be your description unless you wish to add more.
Tom:If you mean what you put up there to start with, that's just fine as
is. Haven't been back to look since last weekend.
Shawn: I've added the rest and cleaned it up a little. Are you thinking I should edit out some of the
conversational stuff and leave the 'meaty' Seth related stuff (As I saw your comment on the
Tom:nope. Right as-is. Fix your spelling where needed as you've a mind to.
Plus, the conversational stuff is a decent read as conversation.
Shawn: Sounds good. I could also create/maintain a Tom Dark website if you like. You can consider it
payment for what you are giving me in these discussions. Let me know...
Tom:Nice of ya. But no payment to be involved. And I s'pose I should
add, "all rights reserved" for all I commit to print. It's time for me to think about commercial
publishing again. Nevertheless: I'm expecting you to do your own dreaming and exercising and
exploring and have your own tales to tell. This is how to move the world.
Shawn: I've read that the less one identifies with the ego the more likely and frequent
lucid dreams will be.
May 25, 2000
Shawn: Part of my question to you about the components of the self (inner ego,
subconscious, personality, etc...) was to help pinpoint the ego.
Tom: Specify "your ego" as you would "your foot" or "your hands" and
you're a lot closer already.
Shawn: Sounds like the idea is not to identify completely with it but to consider it a
piece of you or a useful appendage.
Tom:... Maybe that's what some mean by "lucid dreaming." Out of
dreams then up out of bed without having felt the usual sensation of waking from a sleep state;
so that I saw my dreams no differently than from the usual texture of how waking reality, or
framework one, seems. But "Basically, there are no divisions to the self," so we're dealing with
the art of terminology here.
Tom:"The ego" is blamed in some pretty irresponsible ways in some
quarters. One's quite useful ordinary daily waking self is treated like an unwanted appendage.
Ungood. And then, "lucid dreams" are overidealized. Also ungood. How "lucid" they really are might
be moot. A certain fellow I know likes to go on wild rampages of rape and gleeful violence when
he's ego-awake in a dream. He enjoys it much. A fine achievement in consciousness for a hun,
maybe (no, it's not O.J. Simpson). Likely he's working off the effects of psychiatrists and
Tom:Let's conclude for terminology's sake that it's a condition when
one's ego consciousness operates in dream states at particular levels where the environment still
resembles physical order. It's good for you, for sure.